http://www.isaiadis.com/2009/04/02/homeopathy-degrees-closing-down/ Discussions on science, skepticism, pseudoscience; trips on the borders of religion and science; brief adventures in hi-fi; this is a Journey through a Burning Mind... Sat, 19 May 2012 17:51:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 http://www.isaiadis.com/2009/04/02/homeopathy-degrees-closing-down/comment-page-1/#comment-22060 Sam Burgess Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:00:32 +0000 http://www.isaiadis.com/?p=1170#comment-22060 I am just coming to the end of the 2nd year of the Herbal Medicine Bsc. And, no, the rest is not “pseudoscience-based”, it is mainly learning about communicating with patients and the theraputic relationship, which may sound unnecessary but is important. http://www.isaiadis.com/2009/04/02/homeopathy-degrees-closing-down/comment-page-1/#comment-21991 Stavros Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:43:15 +0000 http://www.isaiadis.com/?p=1170#comment-21991 Jamie, my complain is partly what you mention. But it is a multi-faceted issue: despite going against established science; despite having no medicine; despite all high quality trials and all meta-analyses being either negative or inconclusive; despite having no solid evidence after 200 years (!); they still cannot accept the fact that their pet treatment is just an elaborate placebo; and they still promote it as validated medicine; and they still gamble with human health; and they still invoke all kinds of fantasies, fallacies, and pseudoscience in an effort to assign credibility to it. When it comes to public health, you have to be sure; you have to satisfy and pass all scientific tests. And homeopathy has clearly failed at that, and has been failing at that for two centuries now. Don't you think it's time to move on and let it go?
But it is a multi-faceted issue: despite going against established science; despite having no medicine; despite all high quality trials and all meta-analyses being either negative or inconclusive; despite having no solid evidence after 200 years (!);

they still cannot accept the fact that their pet treatment is just an elaborate placebo; and they still promote it as validated medicine; and they still gamble with human health; and they still invoke all kinds of fantasies, fallacies, and pseudoscience in an effort to assign credibility to it.

When it comes to public health, you have to be sure; you have to satisfy and pass all scientific tests. And homeopathy has clearly failed at that, and has been failing at that for two centuries now. Don’t you think it’s time to move on and let it go?]]> http://www.isaiadis.com/2009/04/02/homeopathy-degrees-closing-down/comment-page-1/#comment-21989 Jamie Taylor Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:23:31 +0000 http://www.isaiadis.com/?p=1170#comment-21989 Is your main complaint with homeopathy that there is nothing in the medicine and yet it is touted as having medicinal agency in it? http://www.isaiadis.com/2009/04/02/homeopathy-degrees-closing-down/comment-page-1/#comment-20005 Stavros Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:34:20 +0000 http://www.isaiadis.com/?p=1170#comment-20005 Sam, true, some herbs have some documented medicinal powers. Others are potentially very harmful. And "the majority" of a degree might indeed be science-based. But what about the rest of it? Is it "pseudoscience-based"? And of course the problem arises even before start talking about the course: what does it mean "Integrated Health"? To integrate what? It is my understanding that it tries to integrate proven science-based medicine with unproven medicine. Otherwise (as is the case with many herbs) if something works, it quickly becomes part of the mainstream medicine. Are you connected to the school by any chance?
And of course the problem arises even before start talking about the course: what does it mean “Integrated Health”? To integrate what? It is my understanding that it tries to integrate proven science-based medicine with unproven medicine. Otherwise (as is the case with many herbs) if something works, it quickly becomes part of the mainstream medicine.

Are you connected to the school by any chance?]]> http://www.isaiadis.com/2009/04/02/homeopathy-degrees-closing-down/comment-page-1/#comment-19995 Sam Burgess Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:34:29 +0000 http://www.isaiadis.com/?p=1170#comment-19995 I am curious to know if you are including western herbal medicine in these comments? There seems to be a considerable amount of evidence available about the efficacy of various plants; much of which appears to be used by pharmaceutical research and developing. The majority of the Herbal Medicine degree is science based with much emphasis placed on recent primary research. I feel it is unfair to generalise about all of the degrees which the School of Intergrated Health offers, they are not the same. The majority of the Herbal Medicine degree is science based with much emphasis placed on recent primary research. I feel it is unfair to generalise about all of the degrees which the School of Intergrated Health offers, they are not the same.]]>