Last night I was watching a
debate between Christopher Hitchens and Frank Turek, on the question: “
What best explains reality: theism or atheism?“. I could not help but notice that the same arguments were presented yet again by some religious apologist. Nevertheless, some of them I found interesting not in their argumentative prowess, but in that while they seem intuitively wrong, sometimes I am hard pressed to express my opinion on the subject. Therefore, I am writing this post mostly to document my thoughts, and hope to generate some discussion or provoke some thinking in my numerous (three to be precise) audience.
In the debate, Hitchens comprehensively dismissed Turek’s vacuous “arguments” with his usual ease, sarcasm, and lots of irony. Still, I feel I need to stand to Turek’s first “argument”, just to show how fallacious his thinking is.
He (Turek) starts by mentioning that even the laws of physics now provide evidence for the existence of a deity, a creator that has created the universe with such precision that has made life possible. Turek mentions that he is going to use the
law of causality to “prove” that some sort of creator must have created the Universe because there can be no effect (i.e. Universe comes in existence) without a cause (put your favorite deity here).
Of course, Turek destroys his own argument a little bit later, without even realizing his magnificently fallacious thinking. He says that everything as we know it, space, time,
the laws of nature, came into existence in the Big Bang, when the Universe was created. In which case I ask, how can you use a natural law (that of causality) which is fully embedded in the created Universe, to “prove” that a cause must have been in place for that event to happen?
In other words, you are saying: “
the law of causality doesn’t exist outside of the Universe, but regardless, it proves that the creation of the Universe must have a cause, because the law of causality says so“. If this is not a magnificent combination of circular logic (religions’ all-time favorite) and fallacious reasoning, I don’t know what is…
Wake up Turek, you can’t have it both ways. You can’t have
the law of causality explaining the creation of the law of causality!
Moving on, but pretty much on the same subject. Turek, building on the “natural laws were created at the Big Bang” mantra (which might be true, but no one knows for sure) claims that for that reason, and because a creator is needed (an assumption that is dubious on its own), then that creator must by definition be a supernatural being.
However, Turek uses a form of
equivocation here, by meddling with the meanings of natural and supernatural. Yes, natural laws for *
this* universe were created in its beginning, in the Big Bang. But there is nothing to say that some other form of “nature” existed before, out of which our Universe was created. Anything claimed as “supernatural” in this context, doesn’t necessarily have to include magical beings such as Gods of any sorts, but merely something that may abide to different laws than our own Universe’s. Laws that in any sense would be “natural” in their own context.
For example, if we assume that other Universes do exist, then it is entirely possible that the “natural” laws in those Universes are different than our own’s. Nevertheless, they would still seem “supernatural” in terms of our own laws, but that doesn’t introduce any magical beings or “supernatural” entities as religions define them.
Besides, this tired old argument of needing a supernatural creator because the Universe was created out of nothing, is entirely untestable. No one knows what was before our own Universe was created. And no one,
NO ONE, is ever justified in making the huge leap from this ignorant position, to deduce that “
therefore a Creator is needed“. This is simply not permissable in any scientific, philosophical, or logical system -only in the religious system of malfunctioning “logic”
.
Turek ironically says that this is not the “
God of the gaps” argument, but honestly, I have no idea what else it can be. As already explained,
there is no way to jump from our ignorance of how our Universe was created to the need and existence of a Creator unless you employ the God of the gaps mechanism.
Further, as science makes progress amidst constant attacks by the religious zealots, more pieces are being constantly added to this amazing puzzle of our Universe’s creation. There are now some hypotheses, based on empirical and observational data, which claim that our Universe didn’t come into existence out of nothing at all. So now, it seems we have ways to have a glimpse into what a few years ago seemed like the ultimately unapproachable terittory of “before-the-big-bang” era!
Hypotheses like the
Big Bounce, which claims that our Universe is simply one in a long series of expansion and contraction cycles; or the existence of
multiple Universes, each one with different properties; all make this field ever more interesting.
Be careful: I am not advocating any of the proposed hypotheses, and I do not claim to know which one is the correct one. Alas, my knowledge in this field is dwarfed by the extremely bright minds working on it.
What I am claiming though is this:
I don’t know how the Universe was created. Turek cannot know. Science doesn’t know yet. Hence,
we don’t know yet. We don’t bloody know. We don’t f@@cking know! How difficult is this for Turek and co. to admit? What is it with this need to make the jump to unjustifiable conclusions about white bearded magical Gods?
Interestingly,
even if you make this huge leap, and admit the existence of a supernatural magical guy that created our Universe,
this still doesn’t explain our reality better than atheism, since all our natural laws operate very well
on the absence of any God hypotheses! Even if this creator made up everything (and what a lousy job he did) there is still not a jolt of evidence that he is supervising everything, that miracles happen, that prayers are answered, and so on. The natural laws are still what determines how our world moves, evolves, and operates.
It has always been the same: Christian apologetics
already know the conclusion (”my, and only my God exists, made everything, and supervises everything”) and whenever new scientific evidence comes up, they try to fit it to their predetermined conclusion retrospectively and selectively. The same happens with Turek: he knows,
he just knows, that God exists, and tries to fit available evidence (and conveniently ommit contradictory evidence) to his pressuposed worldview.
This is not science. And as Hitchens notes, just accept your Gods on faith, but do not try to deduce your beliefs from scientific evidence, because
there is no way you can make the leap and introduce a deity merely by looking at science! Absolutely no way!
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